October 13, 2005

  • GOD TOLD ME TO WRITE THIS BLOG
    (Or at least that’s the story I’m telling)

    I’m sure most of you have either read the story below (which appeared in the Guardian) or have heard about it. Read on….

    George Bush has claimed he was on a mission from God when he launched the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, according to a senior Palestinian politician in an interview to be broadcast by the BBC later this month.

    Mr Bush revealed the extent of his religious fervor when he met a Palestinian delegation during the Israeli-Palestinian summit at the Egpytian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, four months after the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

    One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: “President Bush said to all of us: ‘I am driven with a mission from God’. God would tell me, ‘George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan’. And I did. And then God would tell me ‘George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq’. And I did.”

    Mr Bush went on: “And now, again, I feel God’s words coming to me, ‘Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East’. And, by God, I’m gonna do it.”

    I grew up in a culture where people talked like that all of the time. It was not only acceptable; it was considered a display of the depth of your spirituality. No one thought you were crazy. In fact, if your behavior was motivated by something other than a word from God, you were highly suspect.

    The truth is…I used to talk like that.

    I stood up in front of my church when I was a Jr. in High School and told the congregation that God had told me to go into the ministry. I truly believed it and I was wildly applauded for it. If you had ask me if God had told me that out loud I would have looked at you like you were crazy and told you, “of course not, it was God’s still, small voice.” Many of you reading this know exactly what I’m talking about.

    As I look back on that time in my life now, I can be more honest about what my motivations really were than I was even with myself at the time. I know I believed that is what God wanted me to do but I also know that it was expected of me at the time and I that I received a great deal of approval because of that decision at a time in my life when I really needed approval.

    Then, a funny thing happened on my way to the pulpit. When I actually got into the ministry my idealism began to be shattered pretty quickly. Whenever someone came into my office, sat down across from me, and began a sentence with “God told me to…”, 95% of time it meant I was about to get screwed over. Slowly I began to realize that people would use the “God told me to” excuse to justify all sorts of personal agendas and contemptuous behaviors. I actually cringe now at the naivety of my youth.

    These days I believe that there are ways that God would like me to behave. Whether or not you believe that scripture has any validity, most folks would agree that if you could live according to the general principles of the Sermon on the Mount that you would be behaving as a decent human being. The same could be said of living by the principles in the Koran or the teachings of Buddha, etc. That is how “God speaks to me” these days. When it comes to the decisions I make in life, I take responsibility for my own actions. I don’t blame them on a higher power.

    I have a hard time actually believing that Dubya thinks God told him to invade Iraq. If it’s true, God has really screwed the pooch over there. I think it’s what George thought people wanted to hear, just like I thought it was what people wanted to hear when I stood in front of my congregation back in High School.

    I’ll admit that despite my cynicism, I still have a very soft place in my heart for the beliefs on which I was raised. If you believe that God speaks to you in that “still, small voice” I’m not going to say he doesn’t. I’m just asking that you never use it as an excuse to be an asshole.

Comments (22)

  • I support the efforts of our military forces, but I totally agree with you on this. There….I’ve said it….and I’m not sorry!

  • hmmm, thought provoking – but yea I too am skeptical when people say that – and people do actually believe it – and what argument can you give to disprove it?…but you are right about not hiding behind your God or religion…..

  • Amen, Brother Mark.

  • I believe that God does speak to us in that still small voice. I also believe that there are a lot of people running around claiming it was God speaking when it was probably the Devil imitating God. Maybe that is why God chooses not to speak a lot. Just like there are people that interpret the Bible for their own agendas. Good blog.

  • i think george pulled his comments straight from the blues brothers movie.  where dan akroyd’s character would say “we’re on a mission from God.”  or maybe God was telling me in 1999 if gwb became our president, we’d go to war with iraq, preach from the bully pulpit.  too bad i didn’t have a blog back then.

    now, i do have firm belief that there are times when we are most definitely pulled by a higher power, and i firmly believe in the power of prayer.  i also know that you have to listen and be open to an answer you might not want to hear. 

  • My prayers are with the people being shot at.  They didn’t pick the war.  I’m just a random blog cruiser, but you happened to touch on one of the issues I’ve been looking at lately.  Religious fundamentalism is dangerous no matter which religion it is.  “God told me to” is just not a reason that can always stand alone.  Thanks for being another human with a working brain lol.

  • From someone who has been a member of all sorts of crazy churches I say
    yesssssssssss!
    *waves hands wildly in the ar*
    thank you. thank you. thank you.
    also something to be brought up, those individuals who say that if you don’t get what you want then you’re “not praying hard enough.”
    bastards.

  • I loved your post, and I agree!  Also, I read what you wrote in the blog ring thing, Featured comments are stupid and I have been featured many times along with a bunch of teens and ” hot” woman in various stages of undress, I never go there to find GOOD posts like the one you just wrote.

  • Growing up Catholic, I was always highly suspicious of people who talked that way, since it was not the way I was raised. As I grew away from the Catholic church, and explored other churches, I found the same thing you are talking about. Most of the time people use ‘God told me’ to justify their behavior or opinion. My two youngest brothers are currently in that type of church and talk that way. It recently backfired on my youngest brother when his 4 year old decided that when he was being disciplined  he would come back with, “Only God is the boss of me! And God doesn’t want you to tell me what to do!”  LMAO!! Out of the mouths of babes!

  • After reading your very keen observations about the President placing responsibility for the war on God, I believe you’d be interested in the discourse taking place on Socrates Cafe. This very week we reasoned through the topic “What is a just war?” and had some very thoughtful responses. Why don’t you come by and check it out? I have a feeling you’d be a highly valued contributor. It isn’t too late to add your own post to the discussion.

  • Fantastic post.

    I’ve honestly come to the point where I cringe when I hear “God told me…” because I know that there is absolutely no room for discussion about the statement with the person. You can’t say “What if God is wrong.” (although I do.) And at that point, the person has already made up their mind to do something that is 9 times out of 10, contrary to the stuff that God said and bothered to have written down.

    The only ground is religious ground. You can battle them on the pages of scripture, but so many things get so twisted and mangled in those discussions that God most certainly does not emerge from that debate. More often than not He’s still further banished from the place that someone’s claiming He’s in.

    It’s an ugly, ugly thing.

  • i don’t even think of His voice as “still and small.” heck, He yells, and you can definitely hear Him. i’m not saying that dubya is right in saying he’s doing God’s work… it just brings back memories of learning about the “Curusades” in high school… anyway, He speaks, through our surroundings and people He’s given us to help guide us. today He told me that i am a stupid teenager and i need to get over my pride. He told me in the verses i read in the Bible. yesterday He told me the same thing through my daily devotion reading and my brother and my fiance. go figure. i think i might need to swallow my pride and eat some humble pie. sorry, didn’t mean to preach… just my thoughts. oh, and civ is horrible!!!!! i have cole and humphrey, while i love the class, i could really do without the testing.

  • Ugh, that is my mom in a nutshell. She’s always been a religious fanatic, but when I was 11 she joined this cult and has totally gone off the deep end ever since. One of the last times I talked to her, she said, “God is going to call me away sometime soon. I can feel it coming. I might be called to live in a cave, or underground and I won’t be able to come out or take anyone with me.” Crazy.

  • Fantastic blog today–you put my own thoughts into words beautifully.  And though it’s a few days late, I really loved your Harry Potter is Gay entry!  Good stuff. . .

  • “God has really screwed the pooch”…..Is that an Oklahoma saying? lmao, it certainly is colorful!

    This to me just served as further verification of what a nut case our commander in chief really is. To believe that God is leading you to do something is completely all right with me, but WHY would he feel the need to share this with a Palestinian delegation? I guess that makes him a Christian extremist at war with Muslim extremists. 

  • My dad who was a pacificist asked me had I noticed that so often in war both sides are praying to their God which they are convinced is on their side…and thinking about it I understood what he was telling me….God moves us…but not nations…people do the business on earth.

  • AMEN!!!!

    God doesn’t tell anyone to screw other people over…. at least he hasn’t said anything to me about it!!!!!

    :)

    Sharon

  • Yeah, my voices tell me to do strange things too.  I usually just yell at them to shut up because they’re scaring the people around me…

  • Ain’t no folk can do you like church folk do…..a saying I’ve learned to be true.  My ex joined a cult and suddenly every decision he made was because God had told him…….scary…..especially when he started messing with my faith and wanted to join David Kirish…and later the Freemen in Montana.  Now he distributes subversive government literature and tells us all that we’re evil unless we convert to his views.

    I try to take responsibility for my own actions.  I try not to hurt others.  I try to live my faith.  It’s not easy.  I don’t go around saying God told me to…..

  • I think you just exposed all the ills of organized religion.

    xoxoxo

  • There’s an important announcement posted.  Please come read it!  ~Denise~

  • When somebody comes to me and says  “God told me to tell you….”    I usually consider that their manipulative little way for me to do something they think I should.

    If God wants you to do something…you will know it.  His children hear his voice.

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